the jobs situation in the u.s. is an issue that i don't think is going to go away anytime soon, and if that is the case, 2013 will be a year that will be tough on a lot of people. > larry, what are you seeing seasonally? sometimes there are themes that emerge in the market from seasonal trading. what are you seeing out there? > > certainly as you get into the season, you get into the colder months. we look at energies seemingly rallying as people start thinking about that and even just a psychological trade when the colder months make you think we are going to use more energy, heat and oil, things like that. that is something a lot of traders think about, and if energy costs more, then maybe the stock indexes and the equities in general are going to go down because people want to sell those markets as seasonal, like you just mentioned, they might go up. so, that is maybe one way to take a look at it. > larry levin of trading advantage. thanks for your time today larry. have a good day. > > you too. retailers say un